Sigh, it’s another sexism post

As I was helping a friend registering an account on Polygon, we came about a post titled Tackling sexism in gaming, 140 characters at a time (which I’ve read beforehand) causing him to sigh, I immediately asked why.

‘I don’t care, women, men they’re all equal,’ was the reply.

He was right. The subject of sexism has been on my mind for a long time then I read Jenn Frank’s brilliant I was a teenage sexist and afterwards David Kamikaze’s Sexism- it’s a thing. So let’s hear all sidesThat was the last straw I could not longer resist my writer’s itch so here’s my side of things and my view.

As a female gamer, I’ve yet to have extremely sexist shenanigans thrown at me, and have yet to be assaulted online because of my sex. My experience with browser based RPGs, gaming sites and online console gaming (xbox live and psn excluded, since I don’t have the consoles for them, yet) haven’t been perfect but nothing ‘awful’ has been chucked at me yet. However I’m lucky, compared to the amount of atrocity I’ve witnessed being thrown at journalists and gamers. The amount of £$^@ people think up of when they can hide behind their LOLZIROCK115 usernames (sorry if this is your username, I just typed what came to my head first) and what not is astronomical to say the least. Of course this is the internet, stuff happens. I tell myself not to be concerned.

The subject of sexism came up again when I was discussing it with my friend – a female gamer as well – who has stopped going on psn because of the uninviting, immature abuse she received. Many long messages were exchanged: we talked about Anita Sarkeesian, stereotyping, not being able to report offences etc. I knew then that I was lying to myself; the paragraphs I typed were there in front of me screaming: I’m really concerned about this.

One of the most notorious incident of internet harassment was directed at Anita Sarkeesian’s Kickstarter project. Thankfully with her supporters’ (who I think should be highlighted more than the trolls for their efforts) she’s way exceeded her goal.

Another interesting case involving another friend raised even more worries for me. I casually asked him if he’d been one of the ‘trolls’ before and he said that yes he, was involved once. My attention was focused. When a girl came into an online session, his friends suddenly started pursuing her with insults about her looks. They didn’t stop their pursuit until they squeezed every last drop of verbal abuse they could conjure. My friend felt peer pressured to tag along. His not sexist – I wouldn’t be friends with him in the first place if he were – also he talks and treats girls in the same way he treats guys. An extrovert who can make you laugh and relax, even if our tastes and personality can be different, there’s no denying that his a great guy.

What was my advice to him? ‘That’s not nice, don’t do it again.’

I explained the whole issue of sexism in gaming to my mum and she asked me if I regret going down the path I’ve chosen, whether I regret focusing all my efforts on getting into the games industry and on wanting to make games.

I stared at her and eagerly responded, ‘No, of course not, I love games’.

Despite everything, I still believe gaming is still one of the most diverse and creative industries. It can do what every other medium can (storytelling, sound, visuals etc) and then some (interactivity). I can even list a whole bunch of games that have represented females in a non disrespectful or half-naked manner and games that do have endearing, well-written female characters (Nico Pollard, April, Maya Fey and many more). The same goes for the community. While infamous for being moaning and trolling, that doesn’t apply to everyone. I’ve met and seen many gamers that are respectful and willing to chat about and play what they love without wishing death upon someone. With the rise of games journalism and blogs many have become great writers (heck I’d not be typing this or be at all interested in writing if not for games and all those who write about it with passion). No matter how the mass media wants to portray games or gamers, the truth is gaming and those who love it are not narrowed mind, you are just stereotyping and refusing to accept a perfectly wonderful industry.

Nonetheless I understand some people’s woes. I don’t like throwing the word sexist at anyone or anything (since it’s a pretty big accusation to make and I believe in being tolerant plus open minded) but when I see an advert like the PS Vita one below it still leaves me uncomfortable inside and with a hint of a bad taste in my mouth. Moreover there’s a trend going on among many large western developers that if a game can’t be advertised with a burly guy holding a weapon or with photoshoped explosions, it won’t sell. Those practices are fine though, it’s not like the games are bad, some are outright masterpieces even. The problem is some companies’ marketing campaigns give out a message that half of the population shouldn’t be playing games or that they should be playing pointless, diluted mobile games.

Is this sexist? Depends on your opinion but I wouldn’t exactly describe it as appropriate or inclusive.

Gaming should be inclusive – gaming is inclusive. So why are some people being unwelcoming? Why are we still arguing about hardcore and casual? Why am I seeing so many sexist posts? There’s no short solution to these questions and I can’t ask everything to change by tomorrow. However I’m going to be optimistic though because games like Journey and services like Miiverse try their best to make online a better, warmer place. Sometimes I feel there’s too much focus on negatives (acts of trolling) and not enough on positives (everything else). I do my bit by trying my best to be polite and kind online and I think that’s the best way to tackle sexism and other harassment, by doing your bit: be nice even if everyone around you is acting like a-holes. Gaming will not be welcoming if we don’t make it a welcoming place and that goes for developers as much as it does for gamers.

journey screenshot

Shove this game and the Journey apology thread that gamers set up, into pundits’ face when they say online gaming can’t be venom free.





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30 Comments to Sigh, it’s another sexism post
    • this is a bad article and you should feel bad. sexism isn’t a problem in gaming, little asshole 14 year olds who say whatever they want to try and offend people is a problem in gaming. the fact that woman take this “seriously” and feel that they are being “attacked” is laughable and just sad.

      Who cares, stop blowing this way out of proportion, and learn to ignore online assholes like everyone else.

      • Danwen Huang
      • All the stuff that happens on the internet shouldn’t necessarily be ignored. If people want to highlight a problem whether is sexism,racism,homophobia or general abuse then they shouldn’t be ignored. You’re right gaming isn’t sexist, but sexism (whether it’s from males or females)exists in the industry and that’s evidenced in many different sources(i.e. everything I’ve linked in the article). There’s been evidence as well that it’s not just 14 years olds that behaved inappropriately online(

        I wrote this article mainly based on other people’s experiences and also my own look on the subject (because I cared about it) but I didn’t, or intend to, over-exaggerate . I’m sorry if the article was not coherent enough or of if it’s badly written. However, I still stand by my opinions and you have a right to stand by yours. (The internet is also about free speech and open discussion after all!)

    • OJ
    • It’s impossible to not be on the receiving end of insults on online games; stop acting as if this is something exclusive to women. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been called a “faggot”, I stopped caring long ago. Most online communities are poorly moderated (it’s nearly impossible to handle them once they get to a certain size) and full of children; it’s just something that you have to deal with.

      Stop taking everything so seriously and get on with your life.

      • Mickey MacDonagh
      • This is a discussion that needs to be had and it goes beyond mere online harassment. Unfortunately, it seems as if gamers are incredibly fragile when it comes to criticism of any sort to their cherished hobby. Anita Sarkeesian is not someone that I agree with on a lot of things, but the level of abuse that she got was completely over-the-top and utterly embarrassing to all gamers. Check out this video about her detailing her experiences with dealing with the rowdy mob and tell me that this isn’t cause for concern.!

        • Danwen Huang
        • Thank you Mickey, for highlighting that it’s a necessary discussion. It’s true the Anita sarkeesian incident really showed the communities foul side. The media was quick to dismiss gamers as stereotypically sexist though. There are a lot of people that do use their Internet anonymity to harass but there’s a lot of positives and that’s why I hope developers and gamers to do all they can to create a positive community. And thankfully it’s already happening (Everytime I look at a well written gamer’s blog, journey, miiverse or even play monster hunter tri, I see that it is possible to have a welcoming online community). Though a lot wish to ignore the whole trolling shenanigan. I can understand why though because I was like that before.

      • Danwen Huang
      • Reply to OJ: I agree with miiverse’s policy to moderate the online community. However as you say it’s hard to moderate everything but as gamers or developers or marketers we should try our best to be polite and welcoming to others even if their not of a particular gender, race, sexuality, ineterst and whatnot.
        The fact that it’s full of children (which it isn’t since gamers range from a variety of age groups) means we have to set a good example even more.
        It’s easiest to be passive and ignore everything, but if developers leave trolling as it is or if gamers join in, online will forever be a tainted experience. To paint a more positive community developers need to look at at least trying to moderate comments or encourage gamers to be kind to each other by giving a message, that games are inclusive and no just aimed at a ‘target audience’ who they stereotypes as foul mouthed. So on the last paragraph I hoped that everyone will do they best to be nice and stop trolling (cyber bullying if you ask me) whenever you can. Don’t just ignore the bully or the abuse, stand up to them. A community is suppose to help each other out.
        At least that’s what I believe. I guess I just don’t want to be a bystander anymore hence why I wrote the article. And you can disagree, but I don’t feel it’s wrong to bring up this discussion.

      • Nashoba
      • Wow, such a pathetic comment, that I actually made an account to reply to it. First off, apathy to bullying, of any kind, is not an answer. Why do I say apathy, because rather than just ignore it, you expect everyone to do the same, while you have no idea who, what, or where those people are, their personality, or their back ground. Sorry bud, but games were an escape to us gay gamers back in the 80-2000s, now they are just another industry pushing institutionalized homophobia by image, and by rarely treating hetersexist and homophobic comments on the same level as racist or ethnicist. Games should be a place were us outcast can go and feel safe and welcome. But, that is vaporware as one might say in this day in age where the gaming industry now divides by zero to appease the ones on the bottom of its base verses actually tying to grow up for a change.

    • ZZ
    • As fjagodjf said, being insulted online is far from exclusive to women. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been called a “faggot” or countless other generic insults. Remember “sticks and stones”? It applies here. Stop taking petty insults so seriously; the people who are flinging them at you don’t discriminate against you specifically, they spread their hate everywhere.

      • Danwen Huang
      • It’s true that insults and harassments are flinged at everyone and I don’t deny that in anyway (one trip through a comment/section/online hub will tell you that everyone gets verbally abused in an unimaginative manner as you say). But I used sexism as an example of what can occur online. My main message was for people to actually behaviour in a welcoming manner no matter who the gamer is or what he/she likes. I also wanted to point out there are many ‘positives’ with the online gaming community and games industries approach with online (hence the mention of Journey and the long paragraph beginning with ‘despite eveything’).

        The article was just my opinion and you can disagree of course.

      • Nashoba
      • Sticks and stones… HA, say that to all the victims of bullying kid. They might seem petty to you, but when 90%+ say them like its nothing you begin to start to feel like an outcast and hated for nothing other than being different in a community that has become a group of assholes. It should not be the minority of non-white, non-male, non-christian, non-heterosexual, gamer who needs to shut up and keep his head down, its the gamers who have a problem with those who are not white, straight, males who need to shut up or in this case be punished for their bad behavior via negative punishment. Nintendo did a great job here, since the gaming community has shown just how great it is at moderating itself (epic failure) when it constantly says it is going too.

    • Swindles
    • Have you ever thought that maybe these so called ‘abused’ women just have thinner skin than all the other men and women online? Nothing extraordinary happened to anita sarkesian, she was harassed online for having a terrible opinion, the same goes to nearly every single person who puts their face out on a campaign for money on a controversial issue. The difference is that she was made a martyr by feminists who don’t even play video games, unless you count the abysmal Mass Effect and Dragon Age franchises. The Beat Up Anita Sarkisian game, for one thing, was called by many as a death threat and a crime, by those who ignore the fact that there are games to beat up Presidents, Celebrities, and sports stars.

      If you truly believe that women are oppressed by gamers, you honestly must have no shame. Have you ever considered the idea that maybe it’s the girls who push their gender excessively that are attacked, because GURLLLL GAMERRRRRRRRs are fucking obnoxious. But knowing you, you’re most likely one of those GURLs yourself, by the way you attempt to push sexism as a legitimate topic.

      It’s especially frusturating when you claim that marketing towards 18-35 year old males is sexist. This is ignoring the idea that 18-35 YEAR OLD MALES IS THE MARKET FOR VIDEO GAMES. Do I call it sexist when tampons are not marketed for me? No I don’t, because I’m not a stupid fucker.

      Also, your writing is incredibly bad. “His not sexist – I wouldn’t be friends in the first place with him if he were – also he talks and treats girls in the same way he does guys.”

      That is an actual quote from you. Have you ever considered maybe not writing for a hobby or a living, and letting those who know how to read and write do it?

      • Mickey MacDonagh
      • “Nothing extraordinary happened to anita sarkesian, she was harassed online for having a terrible opinion, the same goes to nearly every single person who puts their face out on a campaign for money on a controversial issue.”

        I’m an old and crunchy fellow, but I’ve never seen such a sustained hate campaign against someone who wanted to make a youtube video series on the way women are represented in video games. Flooding her social media sites with death threats, threats of violence, rape, insults etc, attempts to hack into accounts, distribute personal information, pornographic images of her being raped by video game characters and a poorly made game to beat up the feminist. Now, I am not defending her in the slightest, since I find her ideas to be utterly bonkers (Lego is sexist) but the overreaction that the kickstarter generated was without merit. The kickstater also raised twenty-five times what she asked for despite the concentrated effort by the forever offended.

        “The difference is that she was made a martyr by feminists who don’t even play video games, unless you count the abysmal Mass Effect and Dragon Age franchises”

        It also indirectly proven her point about the endemic nature of sexism within the gaming community. Any argument against Anita or her kickstarter was lost in the flood and cannot be justified against the backlash that it generated. Thanks in large to the backlash, it legitimized her as a voice in gaming. There is nothing wrong with liking Mass Effect or Dragon Age.

        “The Beat Up Anita Sarkisian game, for one thing, was called by many as a death threat and a crime, by those who ignore the fact that there are games to beat up Presidents, Celebrities, and sports stars.”

        It wasn’t a death threat. It was intimidation. Certainly can’t justify it because there are other similar games that feature famous people because she’s not even famous except on the internet.

        “If you truly believe that women are oppressed by gamers, you honestly must have no shame. Have you ever considered the idea that maybe it’s the girls who push their gender excessively that are attacked, because GURLLLL GAMERRRRRRRRs are fucking obnoxious.”

        People label themselves all the time, by their race, by their sexuality, by their gender. I wonder what you’d think about the GaymerCon but I think I already know the answer to that.

        “It’s especially frusturating when you claim that marketing towards 18-35 year old males is sexist. This is ignoring the idea that 18-35 YEAR OLD MALES IS THE MARKET FOR VIDEO GAMES. Do I call it sexist when tampons are not marketed for me? No I don’t, because I’m not a stupid fucker.”

        Bodyform recently came out with a video revealing the shocking truth about the marketing for their female hygiene products. Here’s a video for you to watch at your leisure.
        Also, can you explain to me how a woman with four breasts will sell more Vitas? Are they going for the 18-35 male virgin demographic?

        “Also, your writing is incredibly bad. “His not sexist – I wouldn’t be friends in the first place with him if he were – also he talks and treats girls in the same way he does guys.”

        That is an actual legitimate criticism. One which can be worked on and improved upon. People can make grammatical errors from time to time. Like you for instance. On the third paragraph, you misspelled frustrating with frusturating. While there are other things here and there, I encourage you to also work harder on your grammar and to take up meditation. It’ll do you a world of good and you won’t be so infuriated at things that don’t affect you in the slightest.

      • Danwen Huang
      • Reply to Swindles: Thanks for picking up my grammar mistake-it’s inexcusable, bad grammar is bad grammar. Regarding the marketing, I don’t think your comparison is inappropriate since females and males both play games and that includes those that are advertised to a specific audience. Gaming is a hobby that attracts all kinds of people. I’ve mentioned how I dislike calling anyone or anything sexist, I just pointed out how some adverts make me uncomfortable, and that parts of the industry is not being inclusive despite evidence to show that a lot of females do play (a diversity) games.
        I sorry if I sounded obnoxious in the article, but this was not an attack on anyone. Rather I was discouraging anyone to attack each other on the internet whilst using sexism as an example.

      • Danwen Huang
      • I’m sorry you think that. I disagree since even if psychology states whoever is inferior, it’s still no excuse to treat anyone ,regardless of who or what they are, as inferior beings.

    • Donte
    • I’ve been called a faggot, bitch, cocksucking homo, had people claim to have fucked my mother, had the size of my genitals called into question, been wished dead on numerous occasions and more I can’t even remember.

      But no, “get back to the kitchen” is the real issue here.

      Can’t have women’s delicate feelings hurt.

      Can’t have women grow a thicker skin and ignore it like the rest of us.

      Gotta bitch and moan and whine and cry about it on the internet.

      I would recommend emulating reptiles and harden your skin.

      • Danwen Huang
      • I’ve mentioned already why in the previous comments, I think we shouldn’t just ignore abuse. Essentially it’s cyber bullying and harassment so we should do our best to stand up to it or report it. Sexism is only a part of the venom that occupies some areas of online games communities that’s why I felt like using it as an example and writing out my friends’ and my own experiences. All for the sake of discussing about the issue and how we can tackle these issues whether it’s from a developer’s or gamer’s point of view. Everyone faces abuse and the fact that you had to experience all what you listed means that there really is a huge issue amongst online communities.

    • Kami
    • As I pointed out in my blog, the problem is people want a one-sided debate when it comes to issues like sexism. They don’t want to hear out others – be they against women (which is silly, but hey, they exist…) or just plain fed up and apathetic (more understandable).

      You can’t have a one-sided debate. A debate naturally requires more than one side to the discussion. The problem I had with the hashtag, and a lot of other discussions on sexism, is that everyone shouts down those with an alternate viewpoint. They belittle those people, insult them, and invariably just give them a greater reason to cling to their beliefs, however misguided. You cannot take a moral high ground when you stoop to such lows.

      Ultimately, I do think it’s a lot of hot air though. It’s like people who claim that the average gamer is a white early-twenties nerd. I’m mixed race, in my thirties and whilst nerdy, sport a Mohawk and crutches. If people look at me, I just assume they’re admiring my frankly epic hair. The idea they may be racist or discriminate because I’ve got Spinal Stenosis and early-onset Arthritis doesn’t come into it. Because I don’t think those people are in the majority. So I just think, “Man, my hair is awesome!”

      Sexism is, for so many, a fire that fuels itself. They pull in people with an alternate view, shout them down and declare it is grounds to talk about it more, which in turns attracts more and so on and so forth. It’s an ultimately facetious way to treat what is otherwise a serious subject in some quarters; I have no doubt true sexism does exist in some instances and should be highlighted.

      The danger is when that needs to happen, we’ll already be pretty fed up of the whole discussion and a very serious point will have been undermined by those who seek to use this whole thing to effectively court some quick public favour.

      That’s a very dangerous place to be…

      • Danwen Huang
      • I understand that people are getting tired of the discussion, so I suppose that I just added fuel to the fire :P . This was the only way to scratch my writer’s itch though so I poured out everything that was swirling in my head. Sometimes it’s when you get too into your writing that you forget about other sides. I have been looking at the comments and have been acknowledging all arguments as well as seeing holes in mine.

        On your blog there was one line (‘And they are still human beings, and their opinions – however disgusting – need to be heard in some quarters before being perhaps filed into “Wastebin” ‘ ) that had an impact on me. You’re absolutely right Kami, there are reasons why people feel a particular way about a subject (especially this one), and they shouldn’t be ignored even if their views are unpopular. If I’m allowed to rant then so should they, in lay men terms.

        ‘It’s like people who claim that the average gamer is a white early twenties nerd.’ It’s the kind stereotyping that I wish would stop , everyone games no matter their sexuality, race, colour, etc. Anyone can be nerdy about games and that’s another wonderful thing about gamin:, it brings people of different backgrounds together in one huge community. As a community I just felt we could be even more inclusive because a lot of gamers are, so it’ll be great if developers, marketers, and others that are involved in gaming could look at those who are nice and inclusive as examples, if they aren’t doing that already.

        And again, thanks for the advice Kami :)

    • Sam
    • I’m not sure if I agree with the whole sexism issue with online gaming. Nothing can be done about sexism on say, Xbox Live or PSN. Given complete anonymity, people will always be assholes. I don’t think there is a real problem with sexism in videogames overall yet. It really is overblown sometimes, if a game does one thing, it’s sexist for some reason, but if it does the opposite, it’s sexist for another reason. I think some people will complain about anything, juts for the sake of complaining.

      Whenever I see Anita Sarkeesian and her Kickstarter referenced, I cringe. Why? She’s taking you all for a ride. She doesn’t care about sexism at all. She’s using it as a scapegoat just to get some quick money.

      The reason why Sarkeesian got alot of harassment for her Kickstarter is because everyone could see her getting money from it and then just walking away from it like so many others have. Why she hasn’t walked away yet when others would have is because she is still riding on the publicity she gained from the whole thing.

      Think about it. It’s been 6 months since the funding ended and she hasn’t made a single video yet. All she’s done since then is go around and literally say “woe is me, woe is me, i got hraased by some big bad 4chan trolls :( “.
      Everyone has given her money for pretty much nothing. It’s all a scam.

      • Danwen Huang
      • If someone claims that games are overall sexist, I’d say they knew little about gaming. However there’s a lot of exclusiveness in some corners of the industry. Nonetheless what grinded my gears the most is what people do online, creating a positive community is not impossible I believe so the perfect thing to do is stand to the cyber-trolls. As for Anita sarkeesian, we’ll see if she makes a video. After all she’s one of the most prominent video makers on feminism out there and looking at her budget this isn’t going to be a small, short project. Even if what she asked seems absurd to some (which it isn’t since the kickstarter was initially aimed at her fans who enjoy her videos anyway; people donating for a video series they want to watch is no different to people donating for a game they want to play) is still no reason to be outrageously heinous to her. For whatever reason she spoke up for, I’m glad she did. Standing up to harassment rather than ignoring it, I don’t think that’s a bad thing at all, but the media have gone and blown up with OTT about how gaming and gamers as a whole is sexist (not that it’s surprising for mainstream media to do that). Even so sexism and other cyber abuse exist in the games community and I just think it’s time we stop ignoring it. I wrote this heavily opnionated piece because I got sick of ignoring the matter but it was good to hear your thoughts too.

        • Nashoba
        • just look at the backlash Gaymer Con is getting as an answer to us LGBT gamers who are sick and tired of being harassed, verbally assaulted, and ridiculed on a minute to minute bases by moronic 30 somethings that need to learn its time to move out of mommies basement.

    • LTS
    • I’ve been checking the comments on this article for a while and I sincerely feel — as a guy — that it is a shame that only Mickey MacDonagh here is man enough to put our own issues on the side to understand a little more female gamers; this being on a website I have so long admired. And the author is kind enough to answer you guys with respect and dignity but you still cannot put the trolling you’ve endured on the side to understand how it is true that what happened to Anita Sarkeesian just could NOT happen to a man: hence the sexism.

      I can understand freedom of speech to some degree, but some of us — and unfortunately still a majority — do deserve a chill pill.

      • Danwen Huang
      • Thank you LTS, for being so courteous and commenting. I wholly agree that we need a chill pill. Whenever something controversial such as sexism is brought a lot of heat comes with it and sometimes opinions are ignored (which they shouldn’t be) because there’s too much swearing or anger in the comments. And this anger in it self speaks volumes of the amount of lunacy people have to endure on the internet. That’s what I learnt from the comments. Anyhow I’m blabbering again :P Thanks for speaking your mind and providing another side to the argument :) This is a site I admire as well so hopefully it’ll continue to grow!

      • Nashoba
      • Thank you for posting that LTS but I have to disagree on one thing your last sentence in your first paragraph. Such a thing DOES happen to men quite a bit, however those men, like myself are Gay men. Looking at the responses and backlash at the creators of Gaymer Con, and you can see that if you are not a straight male you are even more fair game for the pathetic masses. This is why I hate console gaming and wish it would just die off. And this is coming from a old school Atari 2600 gamer back in the day. The sad thing is the 14 somethings get blamed for their sexism and bigotry, but outside of cussing out more words per minute than active braincells in their noggin, they are benign compared to the vitriolic masses of 30 year olds that need to grow the fuck up.

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    • Creaks.
    • I finally figured out whats been bothering me about this article. After reading it, it just didnt fit into the ‘online sixism games media’ category Its the disconnect between subject matter portrayed by the gaming media. This actually talks about sexism, while a depressingly large amount of the games media mislabels any sexuality or expression whatsoever involving females sexist. Its actually gotten to the point that its encouraging discrimination, like say against females with large breasts, and slut shaming.

      Which brings us to what I belive the actual issue is. Its not Sexism, sexism, of course is rea, im not claiming otherwisel, you have the very proof in a fine case study in your article. But its just a symptom. One of many, a legion. The core problem is the depraved internet goers who will use any and every insult or offense they can possiblyimagine to be the most insulting thing they can say to an individual, custom tailored for each customer.

      You can be attacked for stating you like waffles better than pancakes. No, thats not an analogy. Its first hand experience, its out of control.

      I suspect the anonymous internet is likely one of the only places these people can inflict there will on others, as, for likely many different reasons, they are unable to diffuse these pent up feelings in real life. Perhaps they are too small and weak, perhaps they are too shy, perhaps there expression is being opressed by an authority figure. The reasons coud be endless….

      Regaurdless, its something im really, really getting tired of.

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